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In Silicon Valley, Immigrants Toast Their Way To The Top

Apr 19, 2014
Originally published on April 19, 2014 12:18 pm

Public speaking can be nerve-wracking whatever your native tongue. It can be especially difficult for immigrants who speak English as a second language.

In California's Silicon Valley, some immigrant tech workers strengthen their voices by joining public speaking support groups like Toastmasters clubs.

Members usually meet once a week to practice giving speeches, which are timed to the second and judged for grammar and presentation. There's even a designated counter of ums and ahs.

At a recent meeting of the "ArtICCulators" Toastmasters Club in Milpitas, Calif., engineer Nidhi Agarwal confronted her fear of public speaking with laughter.

"Madam Toastmaster, fellow members and guests, have you laughed today?" she asked her audience, seated in rows of burgundy banquet chairs in a mirrored dance studio at the Indian Community Center.

"I mean a real lung-squeezing, belly-shaking, eye-bulging kind of laugh!" she continued. "Is there anything better than a contagious giggle that you can't control?"

This was Agarwal's seventh speech since joining Toastmasters two years ago. You could see a slight tremble in her fingers, which was an improvement. Before, she says, you would also hear a tremor in her voice.

"I wasn't that comfortable," explains Agarwal, who was born in India and moved to the San Francisco Bay Area in 2003. "You feel butterflies."

Those butterflies can be felt in the more than 14,000 Toastmasters clubs around the world. Here at this Silicon Valley chapter, members work on oratorical skills in a community of mostly immigrants from India and China.

Learning How To Communicate

Past club president Avani Shah joined the group after marrying her engineer husband and moving from India to San Jose, Calif.

When looking for her first job in the U.S., she says she needed more confidence, which she found in part by learning some of the quirks of American English through Toastmasters.

"Here, people say, 'I'll tell on you.' People don't say, 'I'll tell about you,'" Shah explains as an example.

Aside from mastering American idioms, speaking well in public is also about finding the right attitude.

Henry Miller, a Toastmasters speech competitor who was invited to the meeting as a guest speaker, says the club provides an ideal environment for overcoming any anxieties.

"Here, you can come and you do well, we clap. You don't do very well, we still clap!" he explains with a hearty laugh.

Born and raised in Trinidad, Miller says that kind of encouragement is just what many immigrant tech workers need in the Silicon Valley.

"They know exactly what they want to say. They know their products. They know their jobs very well," he says. "But sometimes, just to communicate their ideas, that's where they fall down."

Tackling The Inner Critic

Club organizers add that practicing at weekly meetings can not only boost confidence levels, but it can also help workers land job promotions.

"If you cannot communicate well to your superiors or to the CEO or whoever is looking at you, they will not figure out whether you are smart enough," says Sunil Tomar, who co-founded the "ArtICCulators" Toastmasters Club in 2003. "It's unfortunate, but that's a fact!"

Tomar, an entrepreneur who left India for the U.S. in 1987 and now lives in Fremont, Calif., remembers shivering on stage when he gave his first speech. He says the key is to tackle your inner critic head-on.

"Go out there and say, 'I don't care! I'm going to speak! And that's the way I'm going to get better,'" he says.

And in case members need any extra incentive, meetings end with an award ceremony — complete with impromptu drumrolls of stomping feet that dissolve into warm applause as each winning speaker is announced.

After hearing her name, Agarwal rushed forward to collect a navy blue ribbon embossed with "MOST IMPROVED" in silver lettering for her speech on laughter.

"I'm improving every time I'm presenting," she says with a chuckle after the ceremony. "That is a good thing!"

And after more Toastmaster speeches, she says she hopes it will only get better.

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WADE GOODWYN, HOST:

Public speaking can be nerve-racking, whatever your native tongue. It can be especially difficult for immigrants who speak English as a second language. NPR's Hansi Lo Wang tells us about a group in CA that's strengthening the voices of immigrant tech workers in Silicon Valley.

(SOUNDBITE OF SPEECH)

NIDHI AGARWAL: Madame Toastmaster, fellow members and guests, have you laughed today?

HANSI LO WANG, BYLINE: Engineer Nidhi Agarwal confronts her fear of public speaking with laughter. Not literally, but that's the topic of her speech at the ArtICCulators Toastmasters Club, housed this evening in a mere dance studio at the Indian Community Center of Milpitas, CA.

AGARWAL: I mean a real, lung-squeezing, belly-shaking, eye-watering kind of laugh. Is there anything better than a contagious giggle that you can't control?

WANG: This is Agarwal's seventh speech since joining Toastmasters two years ago. You can see a slight tremble in her fingers, which is an improvement. Before, she says, you would also hear a tremor in her voice.

AGARWAL: I wasn't that comfortable. You feel, like, butterflies. (Laughter).

WANG: Those butterflies can be felt in the more than 14,000 Toastmasters Clubs around the world. Members usually meet once a week to practice giving speeches, which are timed to the second and judged for grammar and presentation. Here at this Silicon Valley chapter, members work on oratorical skills in a community of mostly immigrants from India. Were you always this comfortable speaking with people?

AVANI SHAH: (Laughter) Never.

WANG: Avani Shah joined the club two years ago after marrying her engineer husband and moving from India to San Jose, CA. When looking for her first job in the U.S., she says she needed more confidence. Toastmasters gave it to her by revealing some of the quirks of American English.

SHAH: To give you an example, when we were kids, if somebody's not behaving, you'll say, hey, I'll tell about you to your mother or whoever, right? So here, people say, I'll tell on you. People don't say, I'll tell about you.

WANG: Aside from mastering American idioms, speaking well in public is also about attitude. Henry Miller, a guest speaker at this evening's meeting, has won awards for his speeches. He was born in Trinidad and moved to the U.S. more than four decades ago.

HENRY MILLER: But I never lost my accent. (Laughter) It's mine.

WANG: Miller says this club is the ideal environment for overcoming the fear of public speaking.

MILLER: Here, you can come, and you do well, we clap. You don't do very well, we still clap. (Laughter).

WANG: That kind of encouragement, Miller says, is just what many immigrant tech workers need in Silicon Valley.

MILLER: They know exactly what they want to say. They know their products. They know their jobs very well. But sometimes, just to communicate their ideas, that's where they fall down.

SUNIL TOMAR: If you cannot communicate well to your superiors or to the CEO or whoever is looking at you, they will not figure out whether you are smart enough. It's unfortunate, but that's the fact.

WANG: Club cofounder Sunil Tomar remembers shivering on stage when he gave his first speech. He says the key is to tackle your inner critic head on.

TOMAR: Go out there and say, I don't care. I'm going to speak, and that's the way I'm going to get better.

WANG: And in case you need any extra incentive, meetings end with an awards ceremony complete with impromptu drummers.

(SOUNDBITE OF DRUM ROLL)

SHAH: Drum rolls. Nidhi.

(APPLAUSE)

AGARWAL: Yay.

(APPLAUSE)

WANG: Nidhi Agarwal joins in on the applause. She rushes forward to collect an award for her speech on laughter. What does your ribbon say?

AGARWAL: Ribbon say that I am most improved because I'm improving every time I'm presenting. That is good thing.

WANG: A good thing that, after more Toastmasters speeches, Agarwal hopes will only get better. Hansi Lo Wang, NPR News.

GOODWYN: Hansi Lo Wang covers race, ethnicity and culture for NPR's Code Switch team. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.